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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.terrarossa.com/monday-morning/#comment-127</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 05:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Is it "All" or just "Most of") You are forgetting about Logistical Grace, which doctrine opines that until Yahweh is through with this earth, there will be water to drink and air to breathe, and hey, maybe even a bite to eat (sic), i.e. sustenance.  Premise being that we're not nearly as important as we often perceive ourselves to be, and if that is true of a hang-glider smashing his face into a sharp rock wall, well then maybe it's true of us too.

"Peace, Out" y'all.  Be safe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Is it &#8220;All&#8221; or just &#8220;Most of&#8221;) You are forgetting about Logistical Grace, which doctrine opines that until Yahweh is through with this earth, there will be water to drink and air to breathe, and hey, maybe even a bite to eat (sic), i.e. sustenance.  Premise being that we&#8217;re not nearly as important as we often perceive ourselves to be, and if that is true of a hang-glider smashing his face into a sharp rock wall, well then maybe it&#8217;s true of us too.</p>
<p>&#8220;Peace, Out&#8221; y&#8217;all.  Be safe.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Russo</title>
		<link>http://www.terrarossa.com/monday-morning/#comment-126</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Russo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 00:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why hasn't someone addressed the fact that the earth has tilted 1 degree on it's axis. Plus 30 years of sun spot activity????? It affects the whole globe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why hasn&#8217;t someone addressed the fact that the earth has tilted 1 degree on it&#8217;s axis. Plus 30 years of sun spot activity????? It affects the whole globe.</p>
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		<title>By: William R. Sell</title>
		<link>http://www.terrarossa.com/monday-morning/#comment-125</link>
		<dc:creator>William R. Sell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 23:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. There are a good many other factors at play in the warming trend. Consider how the substantial decline in the atmospheric transparency, or reflectivity. No, credits and caps mean MORE money shaken out of the already too expensive factor. A wealth transfer of the most obnoxious kind. Are you serious when you say these entities are "free" to engage in this..whatizzit? Sequestration is the only viable method presently for stopping or severely curtailing carbon emmissions and recognizes the uncomfortable reality that nearly all our energy sources contain carbon. An entity should only pay for that carbon released irresponsibly into the atmosphere, rather than subsidize some third-world economy to do it as they please..There are a plethora of unintended consequences in the package. Many times we should remember that of "ten troubles approaching-nine will fall in the ditch"- Government intervention should ALWAYS be the last resort.Especially here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. There are a good many other factors at play in the warming trend. Consider how the substantial decline in the atmospheric transparency, or reflectivity. No, credits and caps mean MORE money shaken out of the already too expensive factor. A wealth transfer of the most obnoxious kind. Are you serious when you say these entities are &#8220;free&#8221; to engage in this..whatizzit? Sequestration is the only viable method presently for stopping or severely curtailing carbon emmissions and recognizes the uncomfortable reality that nearly all our energy sources contain carbon. An entity should only pay for that carbon released irresponsibly into the atmosphere, rather than subsidize some third-world economy to do it as they please..There are a plethora of unintended consequences in the package. Many times we should remember that of &#8220;ten troubles approaching-nine will fall in the ditch&#8221;- Government intervention should ALWAYS be the last resort.Especially here.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Carlson</title>
		<link>http://www.terrarossa.com/monday-morning/#comment-124</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Carlson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 20:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the WSJ, talking about the CEO's ...

http://opinionjournal.com/columnists/kstrasselpw/?id=110009578

What a shocker, their grandstanding had nothing to do with moral reasons ...  its just a simple con job ...  just like all the greens ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the WSJ, talking about the CEO&#8217;s &#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://opinionjournal.com/columnists/kstrasselpw/?id=110009578" rel="nofollow">http://opinionjournal.com/columnists/kstrasselpw/?id=110009578</a></p>
<p>What a shocker, their grandstanding had nothing to do with moral reasons &#8230;  its just a simple con job &#8230;  just like all the greens &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Captain D</title>
		<link>http://www.terrarossa.com/monday-morning/#comment-111</link>
		<dc:creator>Captain D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 03:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a librarian . . . 

let's remember that Wikipedia is NOT peer reviewed, nor should it be considered a research-grade information source.

It certainly has its place in the modern world - however, anybody can publish anything on Wikipedia at any time, and we need to bear that in mind when we get our information there.

For information about the way Wikipedia publishes information, read below:

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Peer_review_and_the_Wikipedia_process</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a librarian . . . </p>
<p>let&#8217;s remember that Wikipedia is NOT peer reviewed, nor should it be considered a research-grade information source.</p>
<p>It certainly has its place in the modern world - however, anybody can publish anything on Wikipedia at any time, and we need to bear that in mind when we get our information there.</p>
<p>For information about the way Wikipedia publishes information, read below:</p>
<p><a href="http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Peer_review_and_the_Wikipedia_process" rel="nofollow">http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Peer_review_and_the_Wikipedia_process</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeff S.</title>
		<link>http://www.terrarossa.com/monday-morning/#comment-107</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 02:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We must do our best to care for the planet on which we live. Having said that, does anyone remember the book "The Coming Ice Age" from the mid 70's? What happened to the "ice age" that we were to be in for? Someone failed to recognize that natural events are cyclical. The temperatue goes up, the temperature goes down. That's just the way it is. (If everything in nature were linear that would be strange.) To pin "global warming" on GM and Ford is just nuts. When it is cooler in 30 years will they be given the credit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We must do our best to care for the planet on which we live. Having said that, does anyone remember the book &#8220;The Coming Ice Age&#8221; from the mid 70&#8217;s? What happened to the &#8220;ice age&#8221; that we were to be in for? Someone failed to recognize that natural events are cyclical. The temperatue goes up, the temperature goes down. That&#8217;s just the way it is. (If everything in nature were linear that would be strange.) To pin &#8220;global warming&#8221; on GM and Ford is just nuts. When it is cooler in 30 years will they be given the credit?</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Hoffer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Hoffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 14:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another thing that must be noted is that synthetic fossil fuels are under development, and may very well replace real fossil fuels when they run out. The synthetic variety will probably be more efficient and less polluting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing that must be noted is that synthetic fossil fuels are under development, and may very well replace real fossil fuels when they run out. The synthetic variety will probably be more efficient and less polluting.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Hoffer</title>
		<link>http://www.terrarossa.com/monday-morning/#comment-104</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Hoffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 14:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Digs into the glaciers have revealed that thousands of years ago, global conditions were rather similar to what they are today. This is not to say there were similar temperatures. What it means is that there were similar weather patterns. Weather throughout history, as revealed by the glaciers, was rather violent and rampant, exactly the same as it is today. Completely unpredictable and unstable. In fact, most recent digs have uncovered that the last ice age was not twenty thousand years long, as previously believed, but merely one twentieth of that, only one thousand years. The transition periods into and out of the global ice age were fast, not slow, taking less than a human life time. Back then, there was no human factor involved, and yet the pattern continues today. As my Baba said when we talked about this, "Anyone who thinks humans could possibly affect the world's weather is flattering themselves."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Digs into the glaciers have revealed that thousands of years ago, global conditions were rather similar to what they are today. This is not to say there were similar temperatures. What it means is that there were similar weather patterns. Weather throughout history, as revealed by the glaciers, was rather violent and rampant, exactly the same as it is today. Completely unpredictable and unstable. In fact, most recent digs have uncovered that the last ice age was not twenty thousand years long, as previously believed, but merely one twentieth of that, only one thousand years. The transition periods into and out of the global ice age were fast, not slow, taking less than a human life time. Back then, there was no human factor involved, and yet the pattern continues today. As my Baba said when we talked about this, &#8220;Anyone who thinks humans could possibly affect the world&#8217;s weather is flattering themselves.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Davis</title>
		<link>http://www.terrarossa.com/monday-morning/#comment-103</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 10:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fossil fuels we burn were once plants.  The plants were once CO2, water, some minerals and sunlight.  In other words, the CO2 we are emitting was in the atmosphere once upon a time by nature's hand and the Earth survived.  The Earth is always warming or cooling.  Global warming brought us the dinosaurs, Vikings and the Dust Bowl and in turn global cooling brought wooly mamoths, drove out the Vikings and gave us the 70's.  In my opinion this alarm over global warming is just another attempt by New Age socialists to raise the standard of living in the 3rd world by lowering our standard of living.  I agree with Rightmom on global warming.

Rightmom seems concerned about asthma.  Is increasing air pollution causing a rise in asthma?  In 1900 businessmen would bring a clean suit to the office because the air was so dirty from all the coal being burned and from horse manure dust that the suit they were wearing became dirty just going to work.  It would seem that the air has actually become cleaner since then.  Pollution from cars has been reduced drastically and factories are simply vanishing from this country.  Take a walk through any cemetary and look at grave sites from circa 1900.  It is quite striking how many graves are filled with dead children and adults who barely made it to middle age.  A child dying now is tragic but relatively rare.  Back then it was routine.  The problem with enacting pollution controls is that the environmentalists and EPA bureaucrats belive that any human activity is destroying Earth and this destruction must be stopped at any cost.  I do not have a problem with pollution control per se, but the question must be asked:  What do you want to accomplish and how much are you willing to pay?  It must be realized that the cost of mitigating pollution rises asymtopicaly with the amount of reduction.  Cars are a perfect example.  For a few hundred dollars more we got catalytic converters and air pumps which significantly reduced pollution.  Now we have OBD II which costs thousands of dollars more plus millions more in NRE which makes less and less of a reduction.  Was this worth the cost?  I recently spent $100 for a silver dollar sized electronic part for my daughter's car ignition system.  $100 would have bought the entire ignition system in the days of breaker points.  I wont even go into how bigh business uses government regulation to throttle competition or create markets for themselves.

As to Bryan, I have read Peak Oil and have heard the "whats the harm in playing it safe" argument before.  Oil is not just going to suddenly run out.  As it becomes scarcer, prices will rise and consumption will fall and other fuels and technologies which become more cost effective will replace it.  This happened to the railroads when they burned wood, and again when they switched from coal to oil.  Chronic coal shortages caused by striking miners forced a huge segment of home owners to switch to oil heat.  And now we have an airline looking at fueling its planes with ethanol.  CAFE laws and such are counterproductive because they delay the inevitible.  Of far greater importance is the fact that we buy our oil from people who want to kill us.

As to the play it safe argument, if mankind had always followed that strategy we would still be living in caves.  For years people have screamed how we are destroying Earth and us with it.  Yet we manage to live longer, live better, invent technology which was unfathomable just decades before and learn countless new things in science.  Show me proof that we are causing global warming, what harm, if any, it will cause and then I will be concerned.  The only way we will solve our energy and pollution problems is to continue to produce enough wealth to be able to afford scientific research.  This can only be accomplished if we are a free and educated people in a free market economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fossil fuels we burn were once plants.  The plants were once CO2, water, some minerals and sunlight.  In other words, the CO2 we are emitting was in the atmosphere once upon a time by nature&#8217;s hand and the Earth survived.  The Earth is always warming or cooling.  Global warming brought us the dinosaurs, Vikings and the Dust Bowl and in turn global cooling brought wooly mamoths, drove out the Vikings and gave us the 70&#8217;s.  In my opinion this alarm over global warming is just another attempt by New Age socialists to raise the standard of living in the 3rd world by lowering our standard of living.  I agree with Rightmom on global warming.</p>
<p>Rightmom seems concerned about asthma.  Is increasing air pollution causing a rise in asthma?  In 1900 businessmen would bring a clean suit to the office because the air was so dirty from all the coal being burned and from horse manure dust that the suit they were wearing became dirty just going to work.  It would seem that the air has actually become cleaner since then.  Pollution from cars has been reduced drastically and factories are simply vanishing from this country.  Take a walk through any cemetary and look at grave sites from circa 1900.  It is quite striking how many graves are filled with dead children and adults who barely made it to middle age.  A child dying now is tragic but relatively rare.  Back then it was routine.  The problem with enacting pollution controls is that the environmentalists and EPA bureaucrats belive that any human activity is destroying Earth and this destruction must be stopped at any cost.  I do not have a problem with pollution control per se, but the question must be asked:  What do you want to accomplish and how much are you willing to pay?  It must be realized that the cost of mitigating pollution rises asymtopicaly with the amount of reduction.  Cars are a perfect example.  For a few hundred dollars more we got catalytic converters and air pumps which significantly reduced pollution.  Now we have OBD II which costs thousands of dollars more plus millions more in NRE which makes less and less of a reduction.  Was this worth the cost?  I recently spent $100 for a silver dollar sized electronic part for my daughter&#8217;s car ignition system.  $100 would have bought the entire ignition system in the days of breaker points.  I wont even go into how bigh business uses government regulation to throttle competition or create markets for themselves.</p>
<p>As to Bryan, I have read Peak Oil and have heard the &#8220;whats the harm in playing it safe&#8221; argument before.  Oil is not just going to suddenly run out.  As it becomes scarcer, prices will rise and consumption will fall and other fuels and technologies which become more cost effective will replace it.  This happened to the railroads when they burned wood, and again when they switched from coal to oil.  Chronic coal shortages caused by striking miners forced a huge segment of home owners to switch to oil heat.  And now we have an airline looking at fueling its planes with ethanol.  CAFE laws and such are counterproductive because they delay the inevitible.  Of far greater importance is the fact that we buy our oil from people who want to kill us.</p>
<p>As to the play it safe argument, if mankind had always followed that strategy we would still be living in caves.  For years people have screamed how we are destroying Earth and us with it.  Yet we manage to live longer, live better, invent technology which was unfathomable just decades before and learn countless new things in science.  Show me proof that we are causing global warming, what harm, if any, it will cause and then I will be concerned.  The only way we will solve our energy and pollution problems is to continue to produce enough wealth to be able to afford scientific research.  This can only be accomplished if we are a free and educated people in a free market economy.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://www.terrarossa.com/monday-morning/#comment-102</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 07:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Global warming could turn out to be a complete farce. There are preeminent scientists who believe the warming and cooling periods on earth as well as the other planets in the solar system are caused by the increase or decrease of solar flares on the sun. 

Simply google Sun &#38; global warming and there are plenty of articles that support this hypothesis. Certainly this argument has more validity and offers a greater explanation for the earth's warming and cooling cycles over the centuries than the current CO 2 from fossil fuels arguement. Simply because CO 2 from fossil fuels does not explain any other warming period in history and they are too numerous to list.

The problem is those that scream the loudest get heard. Those scientists that scoff at the current global warming theories have their credentials questioned and are intimidated by those that demand it fact.

As for the cap and trade approach, it is a scam that will be lining certain pockets, probably those who posture it as a solution. It leads to arbitrary payments enforced by government, but the beneficiary is usually some murky group with connections. A good example would be the current state of wetlands mitigation in the U.S., which is a a complete fraud, in my opinion. It operates like this, you own a piece of land, you decide to build a home, uh-oh problem there is a puddle on that land that the State or Local Government has designated as wetlands. You can solve this problem, make a payment to such and such land bank and they will restore a portion of their land to comply with what was once native vegatation! How the heck is that a solution! You will also find that members of these local land use committees live in what are established environmentally sensitive lands, with an alterior motive that the land near them is never developed and push Government agencies to purchase the land by them, so they have it all to themselves and the value of their land increases. I have seen this hypocrisy first hand.

How will this play out with fossil fuels? Not sure, but the few will have their hands in the pockets of the many!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Global warming could turn out to be a complete farce. There are preeminent scientists who believe the warming and cooling periods on earth as well as the other planets in the solar system are caused by the increase or decrease of solar flares on the sun. </p>
<p>Simply google Sun &amp; global warming and there are plenty of articles that support this hypothesis. Certainly this argument has more validity and offers a greater explanation for the earth&#8217;s warming and cooling cycles over the centuries than the current CO 2 from fossil fuels arguement. Simply because CO 2 from fossil fuels does not explain any other warming period in history and they are too numerous to list.</p>
<p>The problem is those that scream the loudest get heard. Those scientists that scoff at the current global warming theories have their credentials questioned and are intimidated by those that demand it fact.</p>
<p>As for the cap and trade approach, it is a scam that will be lining certain pockets, probably those who posture it as a solution. It leads to arbitrary payments enforced by government, but the beneficiary is usually some murky group with connections. A good example would be the current state of wetlands mitigation in the U.S., which is a a complete fraud, in my opinion. It operates like this, you own a piece of land, you decide to build a home, uh-oh problem there is a puddle on that land that the State or Local Government has designated as wetlands. You can solve this problem, make a payment to such and such land bank and they will restore a portion of their land to comply with what was once native vegatation! How the heck is that a solution! You will also find that members of these local land use committees live in what are established environmentally sensitive lands, with an alterior motive that the land near them is never developed and push Government agencies to purchase the land by them, so they have it all to themselves and the value of their land increases. I have seen this hypocrisy first hand.</p>
<p>How will this play out with fossil fuels? Not sure, but the few will have their hands in the pockets of the many!</p>
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